Adult Children of Narcissists

by Michelle Piper

Adult Children of Narcissists (ACON’s) sometime fear that narcissism breeds narcissism.

While this may hold true in a minority of cases, it is not always what happens, especially when a child grows to realize that the family he or she was brought up in is not the norm. You may realize and that your childhood experiences are not something you want to replicate in the new life you are making for yourself.

Narcissistic parents are incredibly jealous and envious of their children when they see them grow and develop into an independent self. As you may know, they will do anything in their power to keep you with them as long as possible, to keep stroking their thirsty but fragile egos.

What happens when you grow up, venture out onto your own (reluctantly allowed to do so by your narcissistic parent) and realize that life outside of that narcissistic bubble isn’t what real life is about? It is enough to make anybody’s head reel from the contradictions of what “love” was when you were growing up, to what “love” actually is.

When you, an adult child of narcissistic parents, grows up, you may feel something is wrong but cannot necessarily identify what that is. You may have always associated love and appreciation with conforming to the demands of your parents and therefore assume that is how it all works.

You were “parentified” as a kid, taking on the role of a parent to be emotionally and psychologically responsible for the well-being of your narcissistic parent, when it really should have been the other way around.

You may not have realized the stigmatizing effects that this has had on you until you grew up into your own person. It takes a toll on the self-esteem, self-concept, self-worth, and altogether life satisfaction. During childhood, siblings often mistake “parentification” as favoritism and resent or compete with you.  Quite the burden, I’d say.

There are typically two types of responses displayed by parentified children. Let me know if these sound familiar.

You have the compliant response and the siege response.

The compliant response is much what it sounds like, complacency reigns supreme in your adult life. You may spend a great deal of time caring for others (much like you had to do growing up), always trying to please those around you, and do whatever it takes to maintain a harmonious atmosphere, which usually means that your needs are put on the back burner. This may have caused you to be self-deprecating, feeling that you can give and give, but it will never be good enough.

Then there is the siege response, the complete opposite of the compliant adult child of a narcissist. If this is/was you, then you were probably defiant and rebellious, protecting yourself by becoming less sensitive or walled off and extremely independent.

You would do whatever you had to do to manipulate others and treat them as if they are the parents who wanted you to meet their every expectation. This is more or less a passive-aggressive attack on your parents through other people, doing to others what you wish you could’ve done to your narcissistic parent.

The fear of abandonment is a common theme among children with a narcissistic parent, as you may know. Always having to earn love from them and knowing that it can be taken away if the needs of your parent are not met is a heavy load for any child to carry, especially when you are the one that needs to be nurtured, shown empathy, and be taken care of.

This can carry on into adulthood, feeling that you need to perform to the standards set by your spouse or significant other. You might feel that you are only there to serve your counterpart, always feeling less skilled and deserving than the other, and doing whatever is needed to prove yourself in the relationship.

In many families with a narcissistic parent, children are used as pawns and played off one another for the amusement of the parent. If you have brothers and/or sisters this may be familiar to you. There is typically a golden child and one or more scapegoats. Usually, the daughters of narcissistic mothers are chosen as the scapegoats, while the son(s) are chosen as the golden child(ren).

Your narcissistic mother may have cast you in all of these roles, abruptly changing your purpose when it suited her needs. This sudden demotion or promotion can be enraging or devastating to a child. Which role or roles did you play?

The golden child is the extension of the narcissistic parent, the perfect child that can do no wrong and is mirrored as a replication of the parent’s wonderfulness. Proper boundaries are not made between the golden child and the narcissistic parent, giving a sense of oneness between the two that leaves little or no room for the child to develop his or her own identity. As this adult child of a narcissist grows, he or she feels entitled to this same treatment, expecting others to act in the same way the parent did. Sound familiar?

Then there is the scapegoat, the outcast, the family member or members that take the blame for anything and everything that goes wrong. This child can never measure up to the golden child, even if he or she has greater accomplishments or does better in their life than the puppet of the parent.

Scapegoats are always seeking approval only to be turned down and made to feel inadequate for even attempting to outshine the golden child. This can cause a major rift between siblings, always competing with one another in a lose-lose situation where the referee is not fairly judging the players. Does that hit close to home?

As the scapegoat grows and ventures out into the world of freedom, they have a firmer grasp on their independence than the golden child does, as that child has never been allowed to be independent in their life.

I guess you can say that, retrospectively, the scapegoat is the lucky one. You may or may not agree. Typically, scapegoats can break free from the twisted and distorted dynamics of their dysfunctional family, and break the ties binding them to the abusive life that they were forced to lead. They have more of an opportunity to create a healthy life outside of their family.

However, the burdens they carried from childhood can still play a role in their adult lives. In the workplace, the scapegoat has a tendency to be overworked and underpaid even if their work is superior to others. They can be marginalized and never have the sense that they fit in comfortably with those around them, much like how they felt during childhood.

Scapegoats often do realize that this is a problem and are more apt to seek out professional help and psychotherapy than their other family members. If you happened to be the scapegoat in your family and have taken the steps to recover, you may have sought support from many different sources including meditation, spirituality, and truly loving relationships. What things have helped you to heal and have a better life? I would greatly appreciate your feedback.

With your narcissistic parent, you were most likely devalued and extremely under-appreciated. In the larger world away from the old narcissistic family system, you have the opportunity to be valued for your opinions, values and needs.

You find you can find others who allow you to express yourself and give a nurturing response to your own beliefs and needs. It can help you to recognize that you are an adequate human with positive attributes and skills to share with the world.

You learn that it is not your fault that your parent did not love you or show any empathy towards you, which is something that you really need—to be rid of the guilt and weight you have borne for so long.

I think The Beatles had it right: all you need is love.  And, for those who had narcissistic parents, sometimes it takes awhile to figure out what love is.

{ 28 comments… read them below or add one }

Jeanne June 12, 2018 at 12:38 pm

Hello, I would like to ask for advice. A person close to me is married to a psycopath and they have a children who is ill treated by her mother (the psycopath). The parents of the man are aware of that but they are frightened that she can totally ban them from seeing the child. This last one suffers deeply. I would really like to know if there is any institution or help they can get to face this situation.


A. July 2, 2018 at 3:13 pm

While I can’t say that I agree with every position taken, I highly recommend that your friend check out a website called “Shrink 4 Men”.

It has a lot of advice on dealing with toxic female personalities and specifics about issues regarding child custody and coparenting with evil mothers.

Ugh. I feel for them.

Good luck.


Mrs Emma Green July 11, 2018 at 11:12 pm

thanks so much for this article. Everything in it continues to make complete sense. I’m married to a mental health nurse and CBT Therapist so was aware of the narcisistic mother syndrome but it’s still really good to hear it from another source. Unfortunately, it’s not just my mother, it’s my younger brother, my aunt, my late maternal grandmother and one of my cousins and scarily the traits have already appeared in the second of my younger brother’s daughter and she’s only 4!! Mercifully I take after my wonderful but passive dad who was utterly unable to protect me from my mother and indeed as he got older I would protect him from her!


biret July 14, 2018 at 4:50 pm

Thanks for the article. I have found this web site few days ego. I am 52 years old. I am married but I never have found the love and I am still looking for it. The reason is my narcisistic mother. I still dont know the normal family feelings. I hope I can sort my problem soon. I spent 20 years in terapists to solve the problem but it changed only little. I need help to recover. I read many things here. But I dont know it will help me just only reading.


Julia S Leon September 30, 2018 at 9:01 am

Hi my name is Julia and I am 53 years old My own mother is a dark triad something I only became aware of just only under a year ago my experience with her was so extreme my my first 42 years of life I was borderline personality disorder. What has helped me the most is being as open and honest about what happened to me to everyone all my family all my friends being completely honest and open and also taking a real big offense to what happened to me knowing I had a right to a different life. Also becoming aware that if my own mother could hurt me and learning what she was that she was capable of doing this to others and finding those people within your own group going to them with that understanding. What helps me the most stay grounded is realizing that my mother is got no conscience she’s incapable of true feelings and emotions so by severing my relationship and tie with her I always remind myself that she doesn’t feel like I do she doesn’t have the hurt and pain she’s not built the same way reminding myself of that helps me suburb the emotional bond add a child to a parent very hard to do but knowing that she doesn’t have what we have a conscience that can be hurt. I walked away from our relationship August 2017 I choose not to put myself around her or interact with her anyway the last thing I said was she got the first 50 years of my life and she would get no more and I moved on I hope that helps


Dove November 5, 2018 at 6:01 pm

Just knowing you’re age has helped – as I feel like an idiot that it’s taken 4 years of living after my mothers death to even start to understand what she was. I don’t know what a dark triad it – but I know what it’s like to suddenly understand that you grew up with a parent that was capable of anything, and relentless. Of all the mean and cruel things she did – my feeling of “idocy” is in still swallowing the fact that not only was she incapable of loving – but that contempt I felt was hate. I disgusted her. At almost 55, it makes me angry that I wasn’t smart enough to see that. It upsets me that I’m only now realizing that I’ve never even considered treated another child the way I was – I guess I still don’t quite get my head around the fact that I ever was a child. Quite, absurd, I know. I do hope some relief from all this comes soon, as I am suddenly loosing memory and hair. I’m amazed at all these here that have identified the problem – and embarrassed. I hope their really is life after death. 🙂


Sandy February 4, 2019 at 4:01 pm

Dove, I wish you didn’t feel like an idiot… hopefully its just a phase once one finds out… God knows I called myself an idiot enough times when I first found out what my mother’s problems had been all along, and that it was not me that was the eternal problem.
I found out from pure luck one night on the net, while on a youtube cruise for interesting videos from channels I sub there.
I’m super glad for you that you found the source of the problems – hopefully now, as you review everything with this new informed perspective, you may be amazed at how many of your lifelong questions will be answered.
Wishing for your move in to the place of acceptance to be expedient for you.
All this is “dark night of the soul” stuff. And it is good once you wade through it. Everyone has their own way, but if I could suggest you search out on youtube – plenty of ways there to heal. This isn’t the end, its the beginning of a good life of self-autonomy – yours. The best to you and everyone going through this mire.


Sue July 15, 2018 at 6:30 am

How do I find a therapist that specializes in narcissistic abuse? I called my mom out on her abuse 2 years ago and she has been ignoring me ever since and smearing me to my 3 sibs and everyone who will listen. I find it very difficult to move on. When I go to family functions everyone puts on a fake happy face. I see my mom at these functions but we don’t talk. Being ignored and smeared by your own mother feels like my heart has been ripped out. I have been seeing therapists but feel I need a specialist. How do I heal and get this unsolvable mess out of my head?


Paul February 6, 2019 at 4:38 pm

Hi sue,
You can only come out of what u called unsolvable mess,by understanding as to what actually narcissism is? I married into such a family about 30 years ago. I never even heard the word narcissism in my life, but I noticed something was odd about this family, so it took me nearly 30 years to put my finger on the actual problem,which is narcissism,but still to understand it takes time as to what actually it is? So my advise try to gain knowledge about it….
Simple way to understand is as a dog can not feel that you are hurt or you feel pain,if it bites you, but it will feel the pain if you hit the dog.
Same is the case of narcissist humans…they can not feel anything about you but hurt them…they can feel that……they are just built that way.
Rest all stories you can read


Violet July 29, 2018 at 7:50 pm

After separating from my ex almost three years ago, I learned my parents were narcissistic among other things. I then married into it at the advice of my father. When the abuse was so bad I ended up back to the abusive parents that raised me. With children in tow. It got so bad the last two years that we had to try to run. Now the state seized my children warantlessly and put them with the abusers. I’m so lost and sad and angry. All I wanted was to make my own way in life with my kids. I cry. Every minute of every god damned day. I have no resources or money and no support system. All I want is to hold my babies and kiss their faces. To say I’m sorry this happened. I need to know that they’re okay and wether they’re happy. Yet I have been denied visitation and phone calls from them for two weeks now.
I am in agony and have no knowledge of this type of situation. Any ideas, or suggestions would be so appreciated. Thank you.


Biret August 4, 2018 at 5:27 pm

Did you find any solution? Where are your children now? Is there any support system in your country for these problems?


Martyn's Tilse July 31, 2018 at 5:35 am

Thanks for this article! It feels right for me. But just knowing this hasn’t made it any easier for me to change. I remain very compliant and anxious to please others despite trying so hard to change.


Mary August 2, 2018 at 12:14 pm

Thank you so much for this article. I’m glad I stumbled upon this and so much rings true. I am the product of a narcissistic mother and a VERY passive father, to the point that I barely had any relationship with him until he and my mother separated briefly (by y mother’s wishes). Now that they are back together, we do not have the conversations (about life and goals, etc) that we could when they were apart. I grieve over this.
I am the youngest of 4 siblings and you could say the golden child along with my 2 brothers, while my older 2 sisters were scapegoats and excised from the family for years at a time based on my mothers whim. I am 42 and just recently took up for my sister, after years of me fearing that I would be kicked out of the family for voicing out against my mother. It was the last straw, and I lovingly told her that I loved her and my sister and that I can not talk about my sister in a negative way and asked if we could change the subject, after which she threw a fit and hung up the phone and I haven’t heard from her since.
As I have been recognizing all of these traits in my mother, I really fear that I have married a narcissist. I have never voiced this of course, but if we get in an argument over anything I fear that maybe I am the narcissist. I have read about gas lighting and I feel this goes on in a mild form. I love my husband but I am beginning to get very tense and protective of myself (inwardly) around him and over the past two years I have begun to experience panic attacks. I’ve been in therapy but I don’t let all my cats out the bag when I’m in the there so I’m not making good use of her or my time.
I am beginning to write and hoping that helps with the feelings that I keep bottled up and hopefully help with the anxiety that I have been feeling.


Biret August 6, 2018 at 4:09 pm

I have a problem. I try to please people.all the time and behave according to their will. I dont know and think what I want. How can I change this?


Kate August 10, 2018 at 4:24 am

To answer the question which child was I, it’s too confusing. When I was a teenager, I was the scapegoat. I am aware of my school accomplishments but I was the bad daughter. I have believed that my whole life which led me to sort off give up the good fight in my early adulthood. At that time (early adulthood) my parents divorced and forced me and my brother to choose a side. I chose my mom, my brother chose my dad. I was now the golden child. Until my own child was born, I never realized anything was wrong. If you ask anyone that has met my mom, not spent daily time with her but rather weekends and when she’s in a good mood, she’s the best person they have ever met. I have been informed my whole life that I have the best mom ever. From her, from peers, etc. This means I am so confused right now. I feel something is very very wrong, after doing multiple tests alone I realize that she’s probably a narcissist if not worse. I now question EVERYTHING she has ever told me. To make matters worse, I question things so much right now that I am not sure I’m not the one who is delusional. Maybe she’s not trying to break my marriage up because she’s single but rather because she’s actually seeing something I’m not. Every time I talk to her, I end up fighting with my husband. Then I spend a week trying to figure out did she manipulate me and if so, how. I truly feel for every single person that has come to this page. The mind fog is the worst. To me, it’s worse than my trust issues, my abandonment fears, even my own issues of self-worth. Because of the fog, I can’t figure out what the problem really is and I don’t know how to heal. I have to heal, I just have to. I want my son to have a great parent because kids deserve great parents. No one is perfect, but I can do better than going from feeling great to feeling awful all the time. Thank you so so so much for this site.


Biret August 12, 2018 at 2:13 pm

HI Kate,
I feel the same. Because my mother is behaving nicely. But evertime I meet her I feel very bad. She says that I am not lucy person.I deserve better husband. My children are problematic. She is very sorry about me. In the end I feel very confused and worthless. But everyone see my mother thinks she is wonderful person. She compares me and herself all the time and mentions somehow I am not good enough. On the other hand she tells to my husband I am stupid how he liked me she dosent understand.
It is very diffucult. I am 52 years old still try to figure out. Thanks to this website.


Barbara January 19, 2019 at 8:13 am

Dear Biret,
Reading your post rang alarm bells. I am not in a position to give advice but I hope my experience with my NM could be helpful: my NM always manipulated and tried, with varying success, to destroy my relationships with my father, friends, my boyfriends, my husband, and my children. In the past I always thought it was because she was trying to protect me, but it has become apparent that it was to have control over me, and the best way to do this was to isolate me from those I love. I was then fully available to look after her and answer to her needs. She becomes jealous when my attention is not on her. She gets jealous when others pay attention to me, and not her. Her response is to disparage me in front of them as if to say ” she is worthless, why are you talking to her? ” It is always about her. She builds me up, then puts me down. She will twist things I say. She lies. This is done to destabilise me, and again, control me. It took me a very long time to realise that my mother is incapable of loving me. Needing me is not love. It is exploitation.
I love my mother. She is 91 and I am 65 and old habits die hard. But I often don’t like what she does and says and I don’t trust her. I am aware of what she is up to and I survive by being cool, and tell myself that the terrible things she says is part of her own torment. I wish I could fly away sometimes but I am aware of my limitations. I have decided to look after her, but protect what is important to me: my integrity, my relationship with my husband and my sons. I have also learned something valuable from this: someone like my mother who is incapable of love is distrustful and ultimately blind to the love which is there for her. She misses out.


Paul February 6, 2019 at 4:46 pm

Hi biret
Try to read the book ‘will I ever be good enough’
Might be helpful

No need to be confused, if you look within yourself, you can see what kind of person you are, you don’t need someone else’s certificate to know who you are?


Marthe September 13, 2018 at 7:59 am

Hi there,
In my environment, one 77 years old female narcissist and a same age husband and 2 adult children in their 55ies.
Does the husband and the children know that their mother is a narcissist?


Simon Forsyth October 29, 2018 at 2:01 am

I was the scapegoat of a very narcissistic mother and a weak enabling father. Worse still my mother was anti male and did not wan to be pregnant because it might destroy her figure and horror of horrors it might be a boy!!
She told my dad when she found out she was pregnant that if it was a boy she would hate it, and she did.
After she died 3 1/2 years ago I found out that her sister who was a midwife and was present at the birth was handed me and my mother told her to take him because he is so ugly.
Apparently my aunt looked after me for the first 6 months or so as my mother wanted to have me adopted out purely because I was male! My aunt who never had any children got stuck in and told her that is as maybe, but how was she going to feel if in later years she saw me walking down the street.
My mother used to tell me that when I was born the Dr’s told her I was mentally retarded and she should just leave me at the hospital and go home. When I asked my father about this as an adult he knew nothing about it, which figures, because the Narc often abuses when no one else can see.
When I was 6 my parents adopted a girl, not because my mother couldn’t have more children, but because there was too much chance it could be another boy!
My sister was the golden child and could do no wrong, whereas I could do nothing right. I was blamed for everything even if I wasn’t present when something happened.
My mother showed no love or nurture what so ever. She only touched me to reprimand me. My dad was a Veterinary Surgeon and was out working most of the time.
So I grew up basically alone. My mother didn’t like me having friends around to play and as I was ill as a child ended up a year behind in my schooling and without experience of the normal social skills one learns as they grow up.
At age 10 I was sent to boarding school away from my family, where because I was a year older than everyone else in my class, no good at sport because of only having sight in one eye and being shy and unsure of myself, I didn’t fit in at all and was bullied. Consequently I ended up being alone.
When I returned home for high school I didn’t fit in because I had learned to be independent, so it was WW3 from day one.
I was interested in photography and this was noted by the headmaster at boarding school who said this should be nurtured. My mother asked what I wanted for my birthday an I said a developing tank and some chemistry so I could process my own films. Her reaction was to say no as she though it was inly a passing fad!!
Eventually things got so rough at home that a years before I was due to finish school while I was staying with a teacher and his wife I made the decision to not go home. My parents tried to get the teacher to throw me out and involved the headmaster and friends parents in a bid to make me see sense!! But I was determined as I knew that if I went back at some stage I would kill her!!
I didn’t achieve at school due according to my mother because I was lazy! In actual fact I was suffering for traumatic stress caused by the situation at home.
I left school with no real idea as to what i wanted to do, but people said I should do a tertiary photography course. I started to make a portfolio but part way through I gave up knowing I had no way of finding the money for fees or living. I knew that if I asked the parents my mother would stop it dead in its tracks.
I have suffered from depression and anxiety most of my adult life.
My dad was brainwashed by my mother and even after he left he continued to blame me for things. He suggested I become a photographer, and when I went to get some guidance about a career at age 28 the guy told me to do a photography course. Iw ent and told my dad thinking this would shut him up, but he just told me to enrol. I struggled with self esteem issues through the course. Dad was snowballed into buying me a photography business by his sister-in-law, when I didn’t think it was a good idea as I didn’t have business experience. Also I still felt he was trying to control me. I found it difficult as it was undercapitalised and he held the purse strings.
After 19 years with my dad suffering health issues and alzheimers I became very depressed and burnt out trying to run a business and having to go to my hometown from where I was living every time he had a health issue.
A week after he died I had to move out of the house I was renting and went home to sort out his stuff with my sister who was executor. She never turned up and i got stuck. We had major earthquakes five months after he died and I got stuck.
I have spent the last 8 years trying to recover, but am finding it difficult and feel my whole life has been a waste. People tell me I am a great photographer but I have trouble believing that and now with a shoulder that needs replacing so am frightened to get back into a photography business, but am also bored and listless.
I am very independent, and spend most of my time alone as I find it less hassle, but am also very lonely.
I also suffer from touch phobia where unless I am prepared for it, whenever someone tried to hug me I freeze.
So in my experience narcs cause an incredible amount of damage and chaos that continue to affect their victims for most of their life.


Kelly October 30, 2018 at 8:21 pm

Simon, I am sickened and heartbroken for you that you had such horrible treatment from your mother. I wish we could wash it all away and just come out empowered. I urge you to try. What your mother did and said was completely unacceptable and she was clearly mentally ill. What she thought of you is NOT the truth of who you are. I wish you strength and self love as you push forward and find that the Great and Powerful Oz was just a flawed man behind the curtain and you find you have had the courage within you all along. You are stronger than you know. Allow yourself to feel worthy of love.


Biret November 5, 2018 at 2:01 pm

Dear Simon,
You had terrible time in your childhood. But I think you have to make a choice to win or lose. You have to choose yourself and try to get rid off your past as much as you can. No one can hurt you in thispoint unless you let it. You have to accept that you are not the person your mother wanted you to be. You are someone different and strong you have to find your true strong self. I am sure you will.


T Smith December 17, 2018 at 10:33 pm

Currently at the ripe age of 46 ugh, I thought the worst had happened with respects to my mother and our relationship, I forgave her long ago which freed my sole, spirit, and in turn there was less baggage to carry around. That is until recently, the last 7 years in particular. I was married for 20yrs, my children already grown, and left my husband shortly after my father and best friend had died back to back. That aside, my mother has come at me with horrendous behavior so hurtful at times, I cannot make sense, nor overcome it essentially I;m stuck in this circle of hurt. My mother and my sister in law who is passive aggressive and very insecure, have become closer in the past 7 years which I’m happy for don’t get me wrong, but at the same time, have caused a wedge with me and other member of my small family or extended family. I have nothing to do with any of them, which in and of itself hurts, is never great to be by yourself around the holidays, but when you have done nothing to deserve it and when the things you have forgiven creep back up after 30 years and relived well, it’s just leaves me feeling so inadequate, lonely sad confused. All the tools I’ve used in the past to overcome such obstacles, are not working, and a passive aggressive personality you cannot just call out to the floor, to be dealt with no matter how tip toe you are no matter how forthcoming you are the result is the same. My mother, on the other hand the minuet she leaves my door is on the phone with the sister in law giving her a play by play one I happened to hear from my front door. I shut my door finally after an earfull but I do not know how I can fix, overcome move on when the hurt from all these 7 years is so fresh unwarranted. I have been disabled due to a car accident which doesn’t help with the feeling of happy positive. But I won’t except the state of depressive self blame I just don’t know what or where to go from here?..


Lorraine December 20, 2018 at 12:43 pm

Hi I am desperate for help with my brothers. I have stopped contact with my mother and her partner (her enabler). My brother’s have been pulled closer. For years I maintained some contact so that it wasn’t awkward for them.
Until it caused me too much emotional upset. They have not had the same experiences as me so do not understand why I don’t want to be around her. I assumed by going no contact I would feel less anxiety and upset which worked for a time.
We have 2 family weddings next year and i am being put under pressure to sort out my anger and the relationship with this person which i am unable to do as i know i will just be on the receiving end of more lies, inappropriate behaviour and lack of respect as she hasn’t taken responsibility for anything that she has done in the past.
I am the scapegoat and she has cleverly turned my brothers against me. One brother recently tried to convince my daughter to do the same. Which really hurt. So I don’t know what to do for the best. I need to cut off her oxygen supply of attention and drama she is currently enjoying from me via my brothers but don’t want to lose the bit of relationship i have left with them. If I can go to weddings but not give her any drama to chew on and be able to do it in a dignified way and look after me at the same time …well it feels impossible!!


Charmaine December 28, 2018 at 2:16 pm

Hi Lorraine,
I have a very similar situation coming up next summer.
My son is getting married and I’m sure my NarcM will be there as well as my 2 daughters that have suddenly become her flying monkeys. (Due to watching the absolute hell she has tried to make my life since I went NC with her several years ago, they know the repercussions of not following her into the abyss?) It breaks my heart, but I’ll never, ever be made to feel that I have to give up my SANITY to “hold all things together” anymore. I did that the first 50 years of my life, and in the end, couldn’t hold all things together anyway!
For me that has been part of the learning curve of starting to recover from narcisstic abuse, golden children, gas-lighting, FOG, flying monkey’s, etc.
I’ve spent my entire life trying to please everyone, all the time. Everyone except myself! Sometimes when I think about all of it, it feels “selfish” to even have a thought of my own well-being. That’s a pretty sad statement and one that I hope someday to say “I NEVER” feel selfish when thinking of my own well-being.
I like what you said about going in a “dignified way and look after yourself at the same time” as that is exactly what I intend to do as well! I bet we can do this!


Janie January 3, 2019 at 3:59 pm

I wish I had found all this out decades ago. I am in my 60s and have just read many descriptions of the life I have lived as the scapegoat daughter with the golden child younger brother.
Back in the 1950s my mother got pregnant


Janie January 3, 2019 at 5:37 pm

I have just read many descriptions of the life I have lived as the scapegoat daughter of a narcissistic mother with a golden child younger brother. I wish I had discovered all this 50 years ago. I was the result of an unwanted pregnancy. My father stepped up and they got married and had a son as well. Dad tried to make the marriage work but she ran out on him one day while he was at work and he came home to no wife, no children and no furniture. She lied to get a divorce and so began my life of misery as she played me and my brother off against each other, and I always lost. She punished me for existing at all but worse than that I was like my father, while my brother is a c!one of her. Because of her lies I never saw my father again. He died before I was able to find him when I grew up. She also said that if I had anything to do with any other family member, she would put me in a children’s home. As I had already lost one parent I was terrified of losing the other. She narrowed my world down to her and my brother and laid a ton of guilt on us both. I never realised this was not how it should be as I was not allowed to have schoolfriends either. My mother hated it when I got engaged and rubbished my husband because he wouldn’t respond to her mind games. She started similar “little teases” on my daughter when she was 6 years old and I allowed her to do it for 8 years until I realised that my daughter deserved better from me and I stopped her visits. I am sorry that I let it go on for so long but now I cannot understand how I believed them when they said I was a bad daughter and a terrible mother. It was never about love, only about control.
My mother & brother spent 30 years trying to break up my marriage and I fought all my battles alone as my husband’s approach was just to ignore her. She has never sent birthday or Christmas cards to me or to her only grandchild. She is 92 now and my brother is still unmarried and still lives with her. She destroyed his life too and he was the ‘favourite ‘. I moved away when I married and after decades of distressing phone calls I finally blocked her number, for the sake of our sanity. It took years before I stopped feeling guilty about it.
I would say to every one else on this page … have to be strong and take as much control as you can, as often as you can until you are free. It won’t be easy but IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT you have a mother like this. You are not the bad person. If you take anything from my experience – it will not change unless you change it. Don’t wait 50 years…….please!


Kristina Ruehli February 2, 2019 at 11:34 am

I could not find the “like” button but you hit this one out of the ballpark for me. I was the scapegoat — but the one that got away. Today, my unconditionally loving husband still has to deal with my defiant side. And yes, I was the lucky one. I was fortunate in that the narcissistic parent was a stepmother who came along when I was nine. I already knew how to think for myself. True, I have PTSD now. It was a bumpy ride.


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